Baker Challenges Rosen
[July 19, 2002 -- The following material was sent by Biff Baker, who is running for Congress against Joel Hefley.]
SUBJECT: Biff Baker 1, Mike Rosen 0, Technical Knock-Out (TKO)
On Wednesday July 17th, 2002 Biff Baker challenged Mike Rosen of 850-KOA on the air for 30 minutes.
Initially, Mike kept Biff on hold for 40 minutes, but finally brought Biff Baker on the air. [Told not to talk about my candidacy -- just the issues]
Rosen had been applauding the Patriot Act and other restrictions on liberty and freedom due to state of war that this country is in.
Biff Baker told Rosen, "I am a West Point graduate and a disabled veteran with 22 years of honorable service to the defense of this country and our constitution. I believe that Constitutional protection per the Bill of Rights must be enforced for all citizens and legal aliens."
Biff continued, "Likewise, I believe the 'spy on your neighbor' program legislation is a move in the wrong direction."
Rosen: "What 'spy on your neighbor' legislation?
Biff: "Operation TIPS or Terrorist Information and Prevention System." Haven't you spoken of it?
Rosen: Not on my show.
Biff: Well you should! May I say why?
Rosen: Go Ahead.
Biff: Why? Because I was a whistleblower for $100 million in fraud within the Missile Defense system. Ever since I blew the whistle on corrupt Generals and Congressmen, I have been slandered, libeled, and defamed. Political opponents could easily, without fact or substance turn me in as "un-Patriotic". And the 'spy on your neighbor' TIPS legislation moves law enforcement from local to Federal levels and that is wrong!
Rosen: So, I suppose you think the Patriot Act is wrong?
Biff: Exactly! I am totally opposed to the "Un-Patriot Act". For several reasons.
Rosen: You mean in a time of crisis you do not agree with the provisions of the Patriot Act?
Biff: I do not. There are two main reasons why. First, it is so loosely worded that a church group or even the Libertarian Party could be labeled as 'enemy of the state'.
Rosen: That would never happen!
Biff: Secondly, when they wrote the un-Patriotic Act, they outlawed whistleblowers. If you find fraud or abuse in Homeland Defense -- you cannot blow the whistle by law. This is wrong!
Rosen: I disagree. Now you are being absurd!
Biff: I fought for 22 years on the front lines to maintain our freedoms. I think I have a clearer view of our rights than someone who has never been on the front lines!
Rosen. You don't believe in any of my arguments during time of crisis.
Biff: I believe your argument would be more credible if we had a Declaration of War, but we don't!
Rosen: Do you believe in the draft? And do you believe the government had a right to do rationing etc in World War II.
Biff: I do not believe in a draft -- I never have. But if you choose to serve then the individual should keep their agreement and the government should too.
Rosen: I agree.
Biff: Then you agree with the Veteran's Voting Block?
Rosen: What's that?
Biff: A nation wide movement of 22 million vets that are trying to restore Veteran's rights that were promised and taken from them by Congress.
Rosen: I agree that Congress should keep their promises to Vets.
Biff laughs and says "Really! Then we actually agree on something!"
Rosen: "You laugh too much!"
Biff: I only laugh when you say something silly. (meant to say stupid, but silly came out)
Rosen: I am glad you are not in charge of Homeland Defense.
Biff: I wrote the Operations Plan (OPLAN) or war plan for Defense of North America.
Rosen: No you didn't! Now you're lying.
Biff: You are wrong! I personally wrote the war plan on behalf of US Commander in Chief (CINC) North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) -- four star General Joe Ashey.
Rosen: You mean you wrote a portion of it?
Biff: No Sir. I was the author. General Ashey gave me broad guidance. I wrote the bulk of it assisted by 5 fighter pilots and then I briefed it to General Ashy for approval.
Rosen: But no one from the Pentagon --
Biff: After General Ashey approved our plan, I personally briefed it to the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the Canadian version of our Joint Chiefs of Staff and had it approved. General Ashey's vision, my war plan.
Rosen: Nonsense: Now you ARE exaggerating.
Biff: No Sir! I will fax you my Officer Efficiency Reports signed by General Officers as well as my Defense Meritorious Service Medal citation and commendation to prove it. I don't lie. I'm the author.
Rosen: "Well may be your definition of author is different from my definition of author". You may have had input but you certainly did not write it!
Biff: Sir. You are WRONG! And once you read these faxes, I will expect an apology on the air!
Rosen: I still wouldn't make you Chief of Homeland Defense.
Biff: At least I have been on the front lines. And I'd be better than these crooks that are trying to cheat the American taxpayer out of $100 million in fraudulent contracts.
Rosen: "In the Department of Defense budget, $100 million is nothing -- not even worth mentioning on my show!"
Biff: I don't think the American taxpayers think that $100 million is nothing. I surely don't!!
NOTE: The remainder of the show Rosen quibbled about the definition of author and mentioned a few other things. AFTER I hung up, he began to state that "Colonel Baker was a mere technician who obviously overstated his importance!"
FOR THE RECORD:
Special Order GB-001 dated 24 October 1996
By direction of the Secretary of Defense, under provisions of DoD Directive 1348.33-M, the Defense Meritorious Service Medal is awarded to the following individual:
LTC Biff Baker Us Army
Signed by the Secretary of Defense.
Baker wins by technical knockout!!